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Source #2 - Postmodernist Lyrical Poetry

Updated: May 1

This portion is due Monday (extended from Friday). Be sure to include live links.


Remember

As you Read/View each iconic work of Postmodernism lyrical poetry, consider these points:

1. Intertextuality/Pastiche - Look at how the work draws from established literary traditions and tropes, "samples" them - mocks them in both a literal and figurative sense.

2. Metafiction/Poioumena - Find the different ways the artist/author turns the camera back onto hirself, becoming part of the narrative zhe tells. At what point does zhe blur the lines between artist and audience, between creator and consumer?

3. Fabulism/Magical Realism - Recognize where the artist/author creates an ecosystem that is uncomfortably uncanny, magical, yet utterly photo-realistic.

4. Minimalism v. Maximalism - Find examples of the stripped down aesthetic of Postmodernist art and literature, then compare it to the sometimes baroque overindulgence of late-stage capitalism.

5. Other Components of Postmodernism from our KF - It's your choice!


 

Naomi Shihab Nye, "Making a Fist" (9 pts possible)


Radiohead "There There" (8 pts possible)



Cody Jinks, "Loud and Heavy" (6 pts possible)

Thanks for the suggestion, Sheepdog!



A Perfect Circle, "Orestes" (9 pts possible)


Buffalo Springfield, "For What It's Worth" (6 pts possible)

David Bowie - "Space Oddity" (7 pts possible)

Nnamdi - "Semantics" (10 pts possible)

CN: explicit language, reference to drug use

e.e. cummings - "[i carry your heart with me(i carry it in]" (10 pts possible)




To Post:

1. Use your digital alias to post in the comments below.

2. Identify which video/lyrical poem you intend write about. Comment on one or more of the Postmodernist elements above. Identify yourself by your alias, identify the text or detail you intend to discuss, then offer your comment.

3. Add your reaction to the work, including applications of the messages to your own experience (do not be too specific if it is a personal anecdote - again, privacy) other works that this reminds you of (use hyperlinks here), and how they compare/contrast.

4. Include in your reactions:

  • embedded videos

  • headings & subheadings

  • GIFs/images

You'll get to use your responses to these works and other Nerdy comments in the forum for your Final Exam.



 

Check out this model comment from Ima Nerd about a Postmodernist poem.

(This poem is not one of your selections. It's for modeling purposes only.)


                                        IMA NERD

               COMMENT #2 - POSTMODERNIST POETRY

                             **MODEL RESPONSE**

Randall Jarrell, "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner"

Summary

When I first read the poem, "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner," by Randall Jarrell, I had a lot of questions. I asked, "What's a ball turret?" "What's flak, exactly?" "Fur?" and proceeded to look up background information. Here's some of what I found.

This is a ball turret, with a gunner inside:

                                                   (Photo: SilverWings)

Maximalism

It's like a barnacle or a pregnant belly underneath a fighter plane. They were used a bunch in WWII, and these gunners had really high mortality rates.


One of the reasons for the high mortality rate was because the ball turrets were tempting targets for the enemy - easy pickin's, the gunner hanging right there separated only by a little plexi-glass. Wikipedia describes the ball turret gunner as "forced to assume a fetal position within the turret with his back and head against the rear wall, his hips at the bottom...legs held in mid-air by footrests" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_turret).

OK, that sounds like a cross between a fetus and a mother giving birth on a hospital bed.


Another reason being a gunner was so deadly is because when planes had to ditch without landing gear (often) the gunner attached to the belly had nowhere to go. The gunner was ground to death as the plane slid to a stop. (Wikipedia). Gruesome.

Intertextuality

So, when I reread Jarrell's poem where the gunner describes himself as "in his mother's sleep" like in a womb, awakening to "black flak and the nightmare fighters" only to be "washed...out of the turret with a hose," it sounds like the poem is describing an abortion.


Is that what Jarrell is getting at here? An old-fashioned way of saying this is that these soldiers, practically babies at 18 years old, were "cannon fodder." Materiel to be used, aborted, and discarded by the state. Is it commentary on countries who sacrifice the poor, oppressed, and vulnerable on the altar of war? It reminded me of two *more* recent works on this topic; yes, the bands were back in the day. The first one is System of a Down's song, "B.Y.O.B." [Content Note: Use of Expletives]

The second is A Perfect Circle's song, "Pet" or "Counting Bodies Like Sheep." [Content Note: Use of Expletives; Political Imagery]


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FrenchieLover:2nd period

  COMMENT #2- Postmodern Poem

  ‘Making a Fist’ by Naomi Shihab Nye


SUMMARY:  When I first read this poem, it had me confused. I had a lot of questions; especially what the fist was all about. But since reading here’s what I found. This poem is basically about deep analysis of human challenges. The speaker definitely reflects on her/he childhood experience of injuring her hand , and how it is a metaphor for the difficulties people encounter in life. The poem dives into the emotional and physical pain of finding meaning in our struggles. 



HERE'S THE LINK:  Making a Fist                                       …




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Love poem? Gross…

“[i carry your heart with me(i carry it in]” is postmodern poetry with the speaker going on and on about how he has an “undying connection” with his lover, stronger than anyone else can begin to fathom. Sounds pretty dramatic to me, to be honest. The poet’s heart is carrying another’s, and is connected with them in every way, shape, and form (which isn’t possible, so…BLEH), and how it feels to be truly in love with someone. Here’s the link to the poem, but read with caution.

Going through this poem, I could not find many postmodern elements when there was one right in front of me. E.E. Cummings’ yucky (although beautifully written) love poem only expresses…




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David Bowie’s “Space Oddity” 


Introduction 

"Space Oddity" is a song by David Bowie that tells the story of Major Tom, an astronaut who embarks on a space mission but encounters unexpected problems. It explores themes of isolation, the unknown, and the human experience. The song captures the sense of wonder and uncertainty associated with space exploration. 




Post Mod Trait #1: Intertextuality 

David Bowie's "Space Oddity" exhibits the postmodern trait of intertextuality through its references to other texts and cultural symbols. The lyrics "Ground control to Major Tom" evoke imagery from space missions and science fiction, drawing on the collective cultural understanding of space exploration and astronautics. Major Tom himself is a character who appears in several of Bowie's songs, creating…





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XenonXplorer 4th pd

COMMENT #2 - POSTMODERNIST ESSAY

Nnamdi, “Semantics”

Nnamdi, an experimental musician and veteran of the Chicago DIY movement, released his album, Brat, in 2020. Its about Nnamdi learning to cope with the feeling of selfishness for pursuing his dreams in music. His work spans many genres ranging from math rock, screamo, and hip hop. He also started his own label, Sooper Records, in 2016.


INSIDER LOOK

Nnambi had an interview with NPR discussing the release of his album “Brat” and each song on the track. My personal favorite song on the album is “Semantics”, so it was interesting to see his perspective on the song beyond just being a listener of the song. They conversed on how…






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Comment #2 - FattyCatty


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David Bowie - "Space Oddity"

Summary

The Song on a surface level appears to be depicting an astronaut drifting in space after a malfunction of the sorts. The story develops as Major Tom's mission proceeds. He faces problems and begins to feel disconnected from his worldly life and relationships. The famous line "Ground Control to Major Tom" stresses the failure in contact between the astronaut and those on Earth. I felt very isolated and sad about the situation and wondered how something like this could happen. This led me to research the creation of a rocket and the training of astronauts like every guy below there age of 12.


Minimalism

A minimalist interpretation of "Space Oddity"…





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